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Interviewing
Users
Steve
Portigal
www.portigal.com
Uncovering
Compelling
Insights
Doorbells, Danger, and Dead Batteries
rosenfeldmedia.com/books/user-research-war-stories/
Interviewing Users
rosenfeldmedia.com/books/interviewing-users/
Interviews with in-house user research leaders
portigal.com/podcast/
When To Use Which Research Method
Christian Rohher
http://www.nngroup.
com/articles/which-
ux-research-
methods/
Different Methods Work Together
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Different Methods Work Together
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20%
28%
35%
55%
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17%
23%
33%
55%
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Who do you
want to talk
to?
What do you
want to do
with them?
Fieldwork
Do
something
with the data!
Who do you
want to talk
to?
What do you
want to do
with them?
Fieldwork
Do
something
with the data!
Screening
criteria,
recruiting
Methodology,
field guide,
stimuli
The Business Question
What new products and services
can you offer to help partners
increase social network
stickiness (and thus revenues)?
What entertainment activities
should you support to tap into a
growing middle-class in China?
The Research Question
How is family life changing in
middle-class China? What
are the critical digital and
analog technologies that are
being embraced?
What are the motivations,
successes, and frustrations for
current and prospective users of
our partners’ social media sites?
How is family life changing in
middle-class China? What are
the critical digital and analog
technologies that are being
embraced?
The Research Methodology
How is family life changing in
middle-class China? What
are the critical digital and
analog technologies that are
being embraced?
The methods we’ll use….
The methods we’ll use….
Pain points: default research/business question?!
While we always uncover so-called pain points, the bigger
opportunity may come from understanding why – how did
we get here?
It may not really be that painful
Satisficing (coined by Herbert Simon in 1956) refers to our
acceptance of good-enough solutions
These can drive engineers and designers crazy…but the
real problem isn’t always what it appears to be
Recruiting the right participants
There may be more – or different – “users”
Think about the whole system: the chooser, the influencer,
the user, and anyone who is impacted by those roles
Challenge assumptions about who the organization is
implicitly/explicitly designing for
• Is that everyone?
• Do they even exist?
Identify
• What type of people you want to find (criteria, screener)
• How you will find those people
Who you learn from is not who you design for
What is their relationship to the product/service/activity?
• Typical user
• Non-user
• Extreme user
• Peripheral user
• Expert user
• Subject-matter expert
• Wannabe user
• Should-be user
• Future user
• Past user
• Hater
• Loyal to competitor
Triangulate across multiple perspectives
By creating contrast, you reveal key
influencing factors that you wouldn’t
otherwise see
The interview guide (or field guide)
A detailed plan of what will happen in the interview
• Questions, timing, activities, tasks, logistics, etc.
Transforms questions-we-want-answers-to into
questions-we-will-ask
Share with team to align on issues of concern
• Especially with multiple teams in the field
Helps you previsualize the flow of the session
• Include questions as well as other methods that you’ll use
Four sections to the field guide
1. Introduction and Participant Background
• Logistics, timing, objectives
2. The Main Body
• Subsections for each area you plan to explore (e.g., configuration, learning
about new features, etc.)
3. Projection/Dream Questions
• Be audacious and ask about predictions for the future or ideal experiences
4. Wrap Up
• Logistics, ask about anything they want to tell you that you didn’t ask about
Example field guide
Variations are possible
https://twitter.com/otherswise/status/959911467209420800
“…a way to close the
social distance between
us and the informant…a
way to make the
interview guide modular.
I can forget about
memorizing the list of
questions. And delve into
the responses. In any
order.”
Michael Davis Burchat
Include other methods
Tasks “Can you draw me a map of your computer network?”
Participation “Can you show me how I should make a Whopper?”
Demonstration
“Show us how you update your playlists.”
Ask for a demonstration of playlist updating
Role-playing
“I’ll be the customer and you be the receptionist, and you
show me how they should respond.”
Role play the ideal interaction between customer
and receptionist
Observations Look in server room, access key locker, and other
secure locations
Show people a solution
Exploring is better than testing
Avoid “Do you like this?”
Don’t show your best guess at a solution; instead
identify provocative examples to surface hidden
desires and expectations
Image from Roberto and Worth1000.com
Ask people how they would solve a problem
Participatory design
“I wish it had a handle” doesn’t mean we implement that literally
Many ways to solve the underlying need (“I need to move it around”)
Designers use this to generate alternatives
Use a range of methods
Logging
Before the interview, participant takes regular digital photos or fills
out a booklet documenting their activities
Homework
Before the interview, participant saves up all their junk mail for two
weeks to prompt our discussion
Workbook to capture beliefs, priorities, etc.
Stimuli
In the interview, review wireframes, prototypes, simulations,
storyboards
Exercises
What’s in your wallet? What’s in your fridge?
Sketch your idealized solution
Draw a map of where you listen to music; draw a map that
associates emotional and subjective factors
Casual Card Sort
Observe – and interpret - the culture
Documentation: photos
Plan to take lots of photos
They will reveal things you don’t
remember noticing
Essential for storytelling
Make sure you have permission
before you start snapping
Documentation: audio, video, notes
Essential to capture exactly what is said
Difficult (impossible) to maintain eye contact, manage
interview, and write down everything
• Potentially a role for a second interviewer
Taking notes – not as the definitive record – can help you
process, notice, think about follow-ups, etc.
• I strongly recommend privileging being in-the-moment (e.g., eye
contact, listening) over trying to capture everything yourself
Who do you
want to talk
to?
What do you
want to do
with them?
Fieldwork
Do
something
with the data!
Interviews, self-
reporting,
debriefs
Click to edit Master title styleCheck your worldview at the door
Before you start doing interviews, do a team-
wide brain dump of all your assumptions and
expectations
Make the interview about the interview
• As a transitional ritual, agree explicitly that you are going
to Learn about Paul rather than Identify NextGen
Opportunities for Roadmap
Click to edit Master title styleEmbrace how other people see the world
Nip distractions in the bud
• Leave plenty of time so you aren’t rushed when you arrive
• Eat, and find a bathroom beforehand
Be ready to ask questions you (think you) know answers to
• Think about: “When are your taxes due?”
• What do you know? What are you afraid they’ll say? What might you
learn?
Click to edit Master title styleBuild rapport
Be selective about social graces
• Just enough small talk
• Accept what you’re offered
Be selective about talking about yourself
• Share personal info to give permission to share
• Think “OMG! Me too!” without saying it
Work towards the tipping point
• From question-answer to question-story
• You won’t know when it’s coming; be patient
Click to edit Master title styleListen
Demonstrate that you are listening by asking questions!
• Follow-up, follow-up, follow-up
• “Earlier, you told us that…”
• “I want to go back to something else you said…”
Signal your transitions: “Great, now I’d like to move onto a
totally different topic”
This level of listening is not how we normally talk to
each other
• Remember that you are interviewing, not having a conversation
• This is really hard
Click to edit Master title styleLeave space for them to answer
BAD: “What happens when you bring
that package home, do you tell your
partner you like it or do you let them
decide, or…”
BETTER: “What happens when you
bring that package home?”
Click to edit Master title styleIf you want to fix something, wait until the end
It’s frustrating to watch users struggle
with your product
• But don’t forget that you are there to learn
from them
You will lose the interview if you start
taking their questions
When it’s time to go, show or tell
them only what will help them
Click to edit Master title style
Who do you
want to talk
to?
What do you
want to do
with them?
Fieldwork
Do
something
with the data!
Analysis,
synthesis,
design
Click to edit Master title styleMaking Sense of Data
Analysis
Break large piece(s) into smaller
ones in order to make sense
e.g., interviews, transcripts into anecdotes, stories
Synthesis
Combining multiple pieces into
something new
e.g., developing themes, implications, opportunities
Click to edit Master title style
Portigal Consulting
www.portigal.com
@steveportigal
steve@portigal.com
+1-415-894-2001
Merci Beaucoup!

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Interviewing Users: Uncovering Compelling Insights

  • 2. Doorbells, Danger, and Dead Batteries rosenfeldmedia.com/books/user-research-war-stories/ Interviewing Users rosenfeldmedia.com/books/interviewing-users/ Interviews with in-house user research leaders portigal.com/podcast/
  • 3. When To Use Which Research Method Christian Rohher http://www.nngroup. com/articles/which- ux-research- methods/
  • 4. Different Methods Work Together Music Application Usage 16% 20% 28% 35% 55% 7% 17% 23% 33% 55% 7% 18% 18% 38% 55% 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% Winamp MusicMatch Jukebox iTunes RealPlayer Windows Media Player <30 (n=297) 30s (n=408) 40+ (n=341)
  • 5. Different Methods Work Together Music Application Usage 16% 20% 28% 35% 55% 7% 17% 23% 33% 55% 7% 18% 18% 38% 55% 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% Winamp MusicMatch Jukebox iTunes RealPlayer Windows Media Player <30 (n=297) 30s (n=408) 40+ (n=341)
  • 6. Who do you want to talk to? What do you want to do with them? Fieldwork Do something with the data!
  • 7. Who do you want to talk to? What do you want to do with them? Fieldwork Do something with the data! Screening criteria, recruiting Methodology, field guide, stimuli
  • 8. The Business Question What new products and services can you offer to help partners increase social network stickiness (and thus revenues)? What entertainment activities should you support to tap into a growing middle-class in China?
  • 9. The Research Question How is family life changing in middle-class China? What are the critical digital and analog technologies that are being embraced? What are the motivations, successes, and frustrations for current and prospective users of our partners’ social media sites? How is family life changing in middle-class China? What are the critical digital and analog technologies that are being embraced?
  • 10. The Research Methodology How is family life changing in middle-class China? What are the critical digital and analog technologies that are being embraced? The methods we’ll use…. The methods we’ll use….
  • 11. Pain points: default research/business question?! While we always uncover so-called pain points, the bigger opportunity may come from understanding why – how did we get here?
  • 12. It may not really be that painful Satisficing (coined by Herbert Simon in 1956) refers to our acceptance of good-enough solutions These can drive engineers and designers crazy…but the real problem isn’t always what it appears to be
  • 13. Recruiting the right participants There may be more – or different – “users” Think about the whole system: the chooser, the influencer, the user, and anyone who is impacted by those roles Challenge assumptions about who the organization is implicitly/explicitly designing for • Is that everyone? • Do they even exist? Identify • What type of people you want to find (criteria, screener) • How you will find those people
  • 14. Who you learn from is not who you design for What is their relationship to the product/service/activity? • Typical user • Non-user • Extreme user • Peripheral user • Expert user • Subject-matter expert • Wannabe user • Should-be user • Future user • Past user • Hater • Loyal to competitor Triangulate across multiple perspectives By creating contrast, you reveal key influencing factors that you wouldn’t otherwise see
  • 15. The interview guide (or field guide) A detailed plan of what will happen in the interview • Questions, timing, activities, tasks, logistics, etc. Transforms questions-we-want-answers-to into questions-we-will-ask Share with team to align on issues of concern • Especially with multiple teams in the field Helps you previsualize the flow of the session • Include questions as well as other methods that you’ll use
  • 16. Four sections to the field guide 1. Introduction and Participant Background • Logistics, timing, objectives 2. The Main Body • Subsections for each area you plan to explore (e.g., configuration, learning about new features, etc.) 3. Projection/Dream Questions • Be audacious and ask about predictions for the future or ideal experiences 4. Wrap Up • Logistics, ask about anything they want to tell you that you didn’t ask about
  • 18. Variations are possible https://twitter.com/otherswise/status/959911467209420800 “…a way to close the social distance between us and the informant…a way to make the interview guide modular. I can forget about memorizing the list of questions. And delve into the responses. In any order.” Michael Davis Burchat
  • 19. Include other methods Tasks “Can you draw me a map of your computer network?” Participation “Can you show me how I should make a Whopper?” Demonstration “Show us how you update your playlists.” Ask for a demonstration of playlist updating Role-playing “I’ll be the customer and you be the receptionist, and you show me how they should respond.” Role play the ideal interaction between customer and receptionist Observations Look in server room, access key locker, and other secure locations
  • 20. Show people a solution Exploring is better than testing Avoid “Do you like this?” Don’t show your best guess at a solution; instead identify provocative examples to surface hidden desires and expectations Image from Roberto and Worth1000.com
  • 21. Ask people how they would solve a problem Participatory design “I wish it had a handle” doesn’t mean we implement that literally Many ways to solve the underlying need (“I need to move it around”) Designers use this to generate alternatives
  • 22. Use a range of methods Logging Before the interview, participant takes regular digital photos or fills out a booklet documenting their activities Homework Before the interview, participant saves up all their junk mail for two weeks to prompt our discussion Workbook to capture beliefs, priorities, etc. Stimuli In the interview, review wireframes, prototypes, simulations, storyboards Exercises What’s in your wallet? What’s in your fridge? Sketch your idealized solution Draw a map of where you listen to music; draw a map that associates emotional and subjective factors
  • 24. Observe – and interpret - the culture
  • 25. Documentation: photos Plan to take lots of photos They will reveal things you don’t remember noticing Essential for storytelling Make sure you have permission before you start snapping
  • 26. Documentation: audio, video, notes Essential to capture exactly what is said Difficult (impossible) to maintain eye contact, manage interview, and write down everything • Potentially a role for a second interviewer Taking notes – not as the definitive record – can help you process, notice, think about follow-ups, etc. • I strongly recommend privileging being in-the-moment (e.g., eye contact, listening) over trying to capture everything yourself
  • 27. Who do you want to talk to? What do you want to do with them? Fieldwork Do something with the data! Interviews, self- reporting, debriefs
  • 28. Click to edit Master title styleCheck your worldview at the door Before you start doing interviews, do a team- wide brain dump of all your assumptions and expectations Make the interview about the interview • As a transitional ritual, agree explicitly that you are going to Learn about Paul rather than Identify NextGen Opportunities for Roadmap
  • 29. Click to edit Master title styleEmbrace how other people see the world Nip distractions in the bud • Leave plenty of time so you aren’t rushed when you arrive • Eat, and find a bathroom beforehand Be ready to ask questions you (think you) know answers to • Think about: “When are your taxes due?” • What do you know? What are you afraid they’ll say? What might you learn?
  • 30. Click to edit Master title styleBuild rapport Be selective about social graces • Just enough small talk • Accept what you’re offered Be selective about talking about yourself • Share personal info to give permission to share • Think “OMG! Me too!” without saying it Work towards the tipping point • From question-answer to question-story • You won’t know when it’s coming; be patient
  • 31. Click to edit Master title styleListen Demonstrate that you are listening by asking questions! • Follow-up, follow-up, follow-up • “Earlier, you told us that…” • “I want to go back to something else you said…” Signal your transitions: “Great, now I’d like to move onto a totally different topic” This level of listening is not how we normally talk to each other • Remember that you are interviewing, not having a conversation • This is really hard
  • 32. Click to edit Master title styleLeave space for them to answer BAD: “What happens when you bring that package home, do you tell your partner you like it or do you let them decide, or…” BETTER: “What happens when you bring that package home?”
  • 33. Click to edit Master title styleIf you want to fix something, wait until the end It’s frustrating to watch users struggle with your product • But don’t forget that you are there to learn from them You will lose the interview if you start taking their questions When it’s time to go, show or tell them only what will help them
  • 34. Click to edit Master title style Who do you want to talk to? What do you want to do with them? Fieldwork Do something with the data! Analysis, synthesis, design
  • 35. Click to edit Master title styleMaking Sense of Data Analysis Break large piece(s) into smaller ones in order to make sense e.g., interviews, transcripts into anecdotes, stories Synthesis Combining multiple pieces into something new e.g., developing themes, implications, opportunities
  • 36. Click to edit Master title style Portigal Consulting www.portigal.com @steveportigal steve@portigal.com +1-415-894-2001 Merci Beaucoup!